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A Review of the DeMar/Hovind Debate on the Rapture

I and a few dear friends traveled in an intemperate cold evening somewhere in Alabama (I remain unsure) to hear a debate on the nature of the rapture in the Bible. The fellowship in these sorts of things is always more glorious than the thing itself. A great time was had by all.

The debate between Gary DeMar and Kent Hovind combined for me two worlds. Hovind’s world is surrounded by KJV Onlyism, Creationism and a hint of paranoia. Perhaps valid on his part. Demar’s world is surrounded by the Theonomic heritage, Prophetic studies and a pint of a good drink. I unashamedly have been of Gary’s tribe for almost two decades. So, there will be nothing of surprise in my assessment.

Gary and I have known each other since 2004. I met he, Gary North and others in a Super Worldview Conference in Georgia. Our worlds have come together on several occasions and our mutual friends keep our theological communities aligned. At almost 70, he is just as sharp as when I first met him and his hunger for biblical consistency allows him to speak with integrity and passion.

I want to outline three elements of the debate that made an impression on me. I attended the debate but didn’t bother to take exact notes, so my thoughts serve to summarize rather than to be precise.

The first striking element was the unpreparedness of Gary’s opponent, Kent Hovind. Gary DeMar is and has been a premier voice in the eschatology discussion for more than 30 years. When Hovind said he read over 100 books on eschatology while in prison, either he purposefully avoided reading diverse voices or he strongly overstated his numbers. I can honestly say that no one who is seriously studying eschatology is going to miss Gary DeMar’s name. His sheer amount of publications on this topic at both popular and technical level is superior to virtually any theologian out there. His classic Last Days Madness has gone through nine revisions. On several occasions, Kent said, “He was curious to find out what Gary believed.”

In sum, it is truly disappointing to see someone debate who has not taken any interest in finding out who his opponent is or what is his precise theological trajectory. In this particular point, Gary’s preparedness shined through and I assume that even Kent was aware of it by the end of the debate.

The second striking element was the fallacy of hasty generalizations. Kent rushed to conclusions without considering alternative possibilities. In the discussion on Daniel 9:24-27 ( a crucial point in the debate about the rapture), Hovind assumed Daniel’s prophecy offered a gap between the 69th and 70th week. Further, that such gap could only be fulfilled in the future. This is a common occurrence within pre-millennial presentations. Such generalizations lead the debater to make illicit assumptions without focusing on the logic and wording of the text. Generalizations keep you from questioning your presuppositions; something evident as the evening went by.

On several moments, Gary seized the moment and drew Hovind to his inevitable conclusion. In fact, DeMar’s glorious moment was to require Hovind to look at the life of Jesus as a fulfillment of the 70th week. Kent’s Post-trib, pre-wrath position keeps him centered in a future rebuilt temple, while Daniel’s prophecy calls us to look at Jesus as the One who makes covenant and establishes an everlasting kingdom in his earthly ministry. In short, the generalizations kept Hovind from seeing the text’s clear implications.

Finally, the third striking element was the constant danger of literalism in a discussion about biblical prophecy. It is almost too common, but Kent’s arguments often highlighted words that were strikingly symbolic but he viewed them through the lens of a literalism. In one case, he asked DeMar whether Daniel’s prophecy could really be applied to Jesus because Jesus obviously didn’t bring in “everlasting righteousness” (Dan. 9:24). But a quick perusal through Hebrews clearly illustrates that Daniel’s prophecy is of Jesus–not the anti-christ–bringing a righteousness that endures and is imputed to us in his death, resurrection and ascension.

At one crucial moment, Hovind inquired of Demar if the sun had literally darkened in Isaiah 13. “There is no historical record of such,” he said. Demar quickly pushed the argument and Hovind conceded that the language is symbolic. Check. Mate.

The end of the matter is that the debate was an awakening moment for those who do not see the Bible in totus. The Gospel writers wrote with their Hebraic context surrounding their every inspired jot and tittle. When we disengage or divorce the text, we suffer a thousand deaths (be aware: symbolic language used). What DeMar did on that frigid evening of January 21st, 2020 was to make Hovind’s large YouTube population aware that notions of the rapture have been misinterpreted and reports that preterism is dead are greatly exaggerated.

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By In Counseling/Piety, Theology

Everybody Wants To Go To Heaven, But Nobody Wants To Die

Loretta Lynn sang long ago, “Everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die.” People like the promises of the good life, but if there is pain or other difficult challenges involved, they quickly lose enthusiasm and slip right back into the life with which they are comfortable even when they know that the long-term consequences are bleak.

This is happening all of this country in the form of new year resolutions to lose weight and exercise. People start like a ball of fire … until they get hungry, have to make time to exercise, and experience the pain of exercise. Those who say, “In order to reach your goals, you will have to cut back on the calories and do X amount of exercise a day” are considered dream-killers, wet blankets, the cold-water bucket brigade. Reality is a difficult thing to face, but like gravity, even though you may not like it, it is there. Jump off a roof and reality will hit you hard.

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By In Theology

Psalm 80: A Song of Christmas Hope

Songs are both expressive and volitional. They give voice to and move us through a whole range of experiences and emotions.  People will often say that they were “moved” by a piece of music, and they are probably more right than they realize. Because music is a gift from God, and we are creatures made in God’s image, music takes us somewhere. 

Consider the psalms of David. These are songs of movement. They take us back, they move us forward. They ebb and flow in a way that is always directing our hearts and minds and communities toward a certain end. 

So is the case with repetition in the psalms.  Rather than retreading ground already covered, the repetition serves as a spiraling staircase leading us to higher ground. Repeating something is not just for the purpose of remembering, although that is immensely important. It’s also for the purpose of strengthening our longing and anticipation for what the song is leading us toward. 

Psalm 80 is one of those songs. It divides up into three sections by a chorus that is repeated three times. Depending on the liturgical tradition you are familiar with, repeating choruses in a song several times evokes different responses. Many of us have had some experience with choruses gone wild. We know what it’s like to be singing a song that feels more like being stuck in a whirlpool that wears you out with endless repeating circles rather than lifting you up in a spiraling ascent.  

But choruses, used rightly, can stir the waters in ways that help the song move us in the right direction. The chorus employed in this psalm is far from simple refrain as we will see.

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By In Theology

Ripples

The enemies were practically at the gates. Syria and Israel created an alliance against the southern kingdom of Judah and Ahaz, the king. Ahaz is a son of David, the giant killer; the one who trusts Yahweh to fight with him and for him against his enemies. However, at this moment, Ahaz was not acting like David. Ahaz and the people were gripped with fear. Their hearts were shaking like the trees of the forest when the wind blows (Isa 7.2).

In order to calm his fears, Yahweh sends his prophet Isaiah to give Ahaz the promise of victory. Yahweh invites Ahaz to ask for a sign that will seal this promise. In his unbelief, Ahaz refuses to ask for a sign. This is wearisome to God and Isaiah rebukes “the house of David” for it. Nevertheless, Yahweh promises a sign: the virgin will conceive and bear a son whose name will be called Immanuel. (Isa 7.14)

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By In Theology, Worship

Ordinary Changes

Worship with God’s people on the Lord’s Day is not always exciting. It’s okay. You can admit it. Many times we walk out feeling encouraged. Sometimes we leave feeling refreshed. But there are those times–more often than not–that worship is … well … rather ordinary. We’ve gone to worship because we know that’s what God commands, but we don’t feel extremely different when we leave (except for exhaustion if you’ve had to wrestle with small children). We certainly don’t look any different. Nevertheless, as faithful Christians, we faithfully plod on Sunday after Sunday.

Somewhere in our hearts, there is this hankering for some excitement in worship. We want something different, something special that will thrill us and provide emotional motivation to be zealous throughout the week. Sometimes God provides this. There are times in worship when the fellowship of the saints seems particularly joyful, the sermon is especially penetrating and encouraging, and the Supper is a deeply emotional experience. Those times are special.

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By In Counseling/Piety, Theology, Worship

Glorifying God

At the top of the Mt of Transfiguration, Jesus is glorified. The Father and the Spirit transfigure him, altering his face and making his clothes brilliantly white. This glorification is a gift from the Father through the Spirit to the Son. This gift is a responsibility, a mission, that will entail Jesus taking up his cross and be raised so as to redeem the created order. Jesus will take this gift, make it more than it is in the present—glorify it—and then return it to the Father. This sequence is basically what Paul outlines in 1Corinthians 15.20-28.

What is happening between the members of the Trinity on the Mt of Transfiguration is a glimpse into the eternal life and family culture of the Trinity. This mutual glorification, this giving-glorifying-and-returning sequence, is not unusual or something specific only to the incarnational ministry of Jesus. What we see is the revelation of the character of the Trinity. In his words and works, God reveals his eternal, immutable character.

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By In Theology

Ends of the Incarnation

A Guest Post from Dr. Scott Swain

Christmas (along with Good Friday, Easter, Ascension, and Pentecost) is one of five “evangelical feast days” that celebrate key moments in the Son of God’s saving mission.

On these days, the church turns its attention in a special way to the redemptive-historical events that mark “the fullness of time” (Gal 4:4Eph 1:10): the time that realizes God’s saving purpose and therefore that decisively determines all other times for the people of God (Rom 6; Col 2:9-103:1-4). As we approach Christmas, it is worth reflecting upon the incarnation, the first epochal moment in the saving mission of the Son of God. 

Reflecting theologically on the incarnation requires that we consider three topics: (1) the uniqueness of the incarnation in relation to other historical events, (2) the nature of the incarnation, and (3) ends of the incarnation. Following some brief comments on the first two topics, I will focus a bit more fully on the third. 

The uniqueness of the incarnation
Although the incarnation fulfills various Old Testament promises and prophecies, most notably those related to the Davidic Covenant, the incarnation does not follow from prior historical antecedents. The incarnation is a “new thing,” an event that exists in a class by itself. The incarnation is a mystery, once hidden but now revealed: “Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh” (1 Tim 3:16). 

For this reason, it is (strictly speaking) improper to classify under the label of “incarnation” any events or activities that happened before or after the coming of the Son of God in the flesh (see Todd Billings’s excellent discussion of this point). In a proper sense, there is and only ever will be one incarnation: the incarnation of the Son of God. Though the incarnation opens up new ways of seeing and acting in the world (see Luke 1:46-55), Christmas is not the occasion for launching an “incarnational” social program. Christmas is the glad announcement that God’s saving program has begun in the incarnation and it is the announcement that God’s saving program will be consummated when the incarnate one returns (Heb 9:2628). 

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By In Culture, Theology, Worship

Why the Church Year?

There was a time when time was not. God began to speak. The heavens and earth came into existence. The rhythms of life within the eternal Trinity began being imaged in the rhythms of the creation. Day one. Day two. Day three. Day four. Day five. Day six. Day seven. A steady, twenty-four-hour rhythm turns into the rhythm of the week. The rhythm of weeks turns into the rhythm of months. The rhythm of months turns into the rhythm of seasons. The rhythm of seasons turns into the rhythm of years. What started as a slow steady beat has turned into a symphony of layered rhythms; some consistent, some syncopated, but all moving the creation relentlessly forward.

In order to conduct this symphony, God put the sun, moon, and stars in the firmament-heaven. They separated the day from the night and were for signs and festival times. The heavenly lights were God’s authoritative clock to tell the world the time (Gen 1.14-19).

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By In Counseling/Piety, Theology

Forget Not All His Benefits

Remembering is an essential part of thanksgiving. A forgetful person is someone who most likely struggles with ingratitude as well. And while you cannot give thanks for what you do not remember, there is a deeper meaning to the act of remembering than simply storing and recalling bits of information. 

As we come through another Thanksgiving holiday, learning how to remember and forget rightly will cultivate the rich heart-soil where gratitude and the grace that accompanies it can grow in all the various weather conditions of life.

Remembering that Leads to Gratitude

In Psalm 25, we find King David asking Yahweh to remember, and what he asks him to remember first is striking. He asks God to remember Himself.

Remember your mercy, O YAHWEH, and your steadfast love, for they have been from of old.

Psalm 25:6

If we are to understand what it means for us to remember, we must first look at what it means for the Triune God Himself to remember. It is significant that David calls upon the name of Yahweh. This is God’s memorial name as revealed to Moses from the burning bush.

Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, “Yahweh, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.” This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations.

Exodus 3:13-15

Therefore, to call upon the name of Yahweh is to call upon the God who is. His name perfectly encompasses and reflects His character. And His character is perfectly expressed in His acts. David understood this. David believed this with his whole heart. He knew that God’s remembering is a commitment to act.  Yahweh sets before Himself the reality of who He is and responds in a way consistent with that reality. His name is a memorial name.

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By In Culture, Music, Theology

Kanye gets Adam and Eve right

If you follow pop culture at all, you know who Kanye West is, and you know that he is now a professing Christian. His recent album, Jesus Is King, is a Christian album filled with surprisingly orthodox lyrics. No blatant heresies or misuses of scripture are detected. In fact, they are quite good insofar as they reveal where Kanye is in his faith.

As I listened to the album, the following lyrics – from the song “Everything We Need” – stuck out to me in particular:

What if Eve made apple juice?
You gon’ do what Adam do?
Or say, “Baby, let’s put this back on the tree,
‘Cause we have everything we need”

These four short lines are immensely profound, for they correct a common misunderstanding about the fall of man (i.e. the doctrine of original sin).

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